the coupling with zwift is problem-free and it works perfectly. In my experience, I can only see the fluctuations and not feel them. The only part that sucks is that the distributor is in Nevada, I’m in NY and this is a very busy time for UPS this time of the year. One core test I do with all trainers though is responsiveness: How quickly does it respond to ERG mode changes? How much flex is everyone seeing in their Suito units? Biomechanically, you are activating different muscle groups due to the vast difference in momentum. Not so much if i try to get off the seat and peddle. Now what I see from comments that the Suito initial problems are not quite sorted out, there are still cases where users experiencing nasty things. Readings kinda all over the place, probably a feature, not a bug though. Easy setup Well-built Portable/storable Quiet Budget-friendly. Oh well, may be the trainer gods will be nice to me later today. Super frustrating the first couple of times, until I saw GPLAMA's tip to keep going and it will say stop when you hit about 55kph. thanks for your reply. I would not hesitate to buy another one if i had to, Elite Suito – A great direct drive trainer and works a treat from Aj Saunders September 18, 2020 Easy setup Accurate power Well-built Helpful support Portable/storable Quiet, Great trainer for its price from talhalegua September 17, 2020 Easy setup, stable, relatively easy to move around. The new unit is supposedly the latest hardware version which supposedly should not have any problems but has a very similar knocking sound, just worse. Thanks for the thorough review. The flywheel only weighs 3.5 kg, but I am not experienced enough to tell what difference a heavier component would make for my "ride feel". I have been using the Elite Suito for the month of January with Zwift. Elite says they first made a fix for it in September, but that it didn’t seem to address the problem as well as they thought. So at this point I kinda had to agree that it was Zwift. Though first, I’d strongly recommend getting the right cassette on there, otherwise it’s going to likely cover up any real issues due to the imperfection there. Could never do this with my tacx vortex… Anyone has a solution? So it didn’t seem loose when I tried to tighten it by hand, but when I used a spanner it would obviously feel it was. I am having multiple Suito issues, the main one being that the Suito likes to say I am doing between 10-20 watts more than what both my V3 and 4iiii power meters read (both of which read the same watts). So, it depends on your expectations and of course on the money you want to spend. My weekly 4 x 8 intervals are sometimes waaaay to hard (I stop at around 2 minuten), other days it is easy doable. Reading this versus yours and GP lama’s review of the Zumo I’m hoping I’m not going to regret it and have to send it back with the elves. I have noticed the same when the nut holding the flywheel was loose. I moved on and just paid the extra to get a Kickr, I really wanted to give the elite a try due to it folding and the decent price point. Do these issues exist with new stock? Hi Can’t compare to a high end trainer for that matter. My brain can only turn off so much of that. Whenever you do that, actually, whenever you lower your bike back, you apply a force on this nut that untightens it bit by bit, and the knocking / wiggle intensifies. I'm doing calibration once a month with consistent results but I don't have another power meter to compare. But I still find it rather incredible that apparently pretty much every manufacturer of these devices throws new models on the market while there are still some pretty major issues to be sorted out. Would that happen to be from Boerkop Cykler? Pour installer ton home trainer c’est très simple : :-/. So the Suunto HR belt actually uses private-ANT, and not ANT+. My previous trainer was a dumb trainer, for that reason i used to have horrible memories on indoor trainers, suito really changed it. Easy setup Portable/storable Quiet Budget-friendly. It seems to be a flawless unit. My first Smart Trainer from Pirki5 September 8, 2020 the suito is a good entry-level model, easy to assemble and easy to use. The Suito will then use your 4iiii PM as power measurement source (and thus will ignore the internal power estimation). To be fair, the distributor replaced the first one really quickly. (ie. I decided to hold judgement until I can be sure. This may be a really silly question but would you recommend getting this trainer if you have an 8 speed bike? Is there any label on the box? The problem is that I can’t shift and the small cog rubs on my frame…. Yeah, because vibrations are pretty hard to record… More globally, how should we carry home trainer in a plane ? As for the shifting, still a problem on the Wahoo – it is likely my rear wheel/hub/cassette has different spacing than most. Normally if I stop pedalling and wait for 10 seconds I can start pedalling again with no issue. In this mode, it’s just like outdoors in that you can change your gearing to make it easier or harder. I find this set up doesn’t feel as good as using the big ring up front with the rear cog in the general area of the middle. Anyhow, tightening the left nut did not work for me and the knocking sounds are still present . After a few rides on the Wahoo, it doesn’t wobble/vibrate like the Suito did (maybe a slight vibration at high speeds), and it is really quiet. Nous avons compilé des centaines d’avis d’acheteurs du Home Trainer Elite Suito pour vous partager les impressions les plus utiles ! Or will those programs still control the W’s? Whilst turning the pedals and increasing the resistance, the brake mechanism was touching the silver wheel, and the grinding / screeching noise started. I got it on late Sept / early Oct 2019, model with longer cable (but supposedly, the model without the fixed bearing installation procedure – which was mid Oct as far as I read). That is odd to me. I missed a week of training and was excited about pulling the replacement out of the box.. until I pedaled and heard the exactly same damn sound! I cannot enter values <1000. Any suggestions? So set that aside for now. Thanks, but I don’t actually have the code. Easy setup Well-built Helpful support Portable/storable Quiet. However, once they explained the logic behind the system and how it works – it makes complete sense. i’m looking for a descent (well-built, stable) and accurate trainer. So I wouldn´t bother too much.If you cannot return, try to forget about it and enjoy. I have the knocking sound and it seems to get worse unfortunately…the nut on the trainer looks and feels rock-solid, though. Lo mejor para iniciarse from verXus September 9, 2020 No conocía los Smart Trainers, y es la mejor opción para iniciarse. Thans to the combination of Elite trainer and Zwift programs. Extremely easy to setup, very quiet, accurate power meter and easy to carry with its holder. This is a super basic trainer mat, which is exactly what you'll see me use. I am comparing this with the Tacx Neo 2 which seems to have a much more realistic feel through out Zwift terrain. Check out my first impressions of Elite's newest trainer. It’s just a rollercoaster ride of ups and downs. Shouldn’t their ERG algorithms smooth this out? View and Download Elite SUITO instructions manual online. I am in the market for an Elite Suito and live in the US as well. So I did buy one of these trainers and I got a Hardware Rev 1 model and have every single problem under the sun with mine, except accuracy. Last days of August. Installation du home trainer Elite Suito. Is this what everyone’s Suito does? I set up wheel circumference like in the manual(2090mm divided by 24,8= 84mm), so I typed in 84 in their ‘my E Training’ app for wheel circumference. Had to return it. I previously could keep up with a buddy, but he was dropping me everywhere. I'm very pleased with my Elite Suito which is doing it's job perfectly. They’ve got two small lock mechanisms to keep them closed shut: The idea with the Suito being to fold it up and stick it under something – like a bed. There are far more competitors in this price range (+/- $100) than there were two years ago. So my view on the elite suito. Easy setup Well-built Portable/storable Quiet Budget-friendly. First experience of a smart trainer. You can adjust every powerzone and it will be semi-okay, but that is a lot of hassle for something that should just work. Same issue here with hardware revision 4. In ERG mode it is recommended to use the small ring up front if 2 rings and generally the middle cog in the rear to keep the chain straight. It is very compact and easy to store should you want to put it away between Swift rides. I could be missing something, but I’ve read a lot message boards without getting the final solution. I'll explain. My advice, return the Trainer if possible if you´re not feeling comfortable with it. But it’s also not terribly different from other trainers in this ballpark. @750W, it reads 20-26% lower…. How hard would it be to put a set of links onto a page? I redeemed the ticket from my account in Zwift. I would say 80% realistic. I was looking for information about drivetrain loss in a bicycle and found this one: Being a user of the wheel-on Cycleops PowerSync Pro the past 3 years, I just don’t understand this response. Since that has been fixed, I have had many km on the trainer and starting a new season very soon:), Great direct drive trainer that is easy setup and store away from Triggerhappy September 15, 2020 Since this is my first trainer I can't really provide any comparison to other brands or models. I dig into the nuances of these both within the power accuracy section. Should I try to contact a local agent who can help. It’s a KOGA Miyata equipped with Shimano 600 and a 6-speed cassette. But they literally mean to just pull it out of the box – no assembly, no dealing with random crap, just pull and pray. They had me send them an email with my name, address, serial number of the unit, description of the problem and a video of it happening. Perfect! Mine had a SUE#### registration number, and I had both the wobbly flywheel and the power issue. The spacer should be there for other speeds. The drive is very realistic feeling, the resistance switches very smoothly in ERG mode and the unit is relatively quiet. Read tons about it here. Et voilà que le printemps presque arrivé, nous nous retrouvons tous confinés chez nous pour une durée indéterminée. I’ve a lot of fun with it on Zwift. link to support.zwift.com. Ordered a 148×13 adapter, not easy to find those. The difference between the wattage measured on the crank and the trainer is mainly the drivetrain loss. Hello, so I decided to share my experience with Suito as well, mostly for reference purposes. » Hands-On: Elite’s New $799 Suito Smart Trainer (with cassette), » Elite Direto X Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, » Elite Zumo Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, » Elite Direto XR Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, Winter 2019-2020 Trainer Recommendations Guide, Elago R1 Apple TV Remote Silicone Case with Strap, Indoor Cycle Trainer Desk (RAD/Lifeline/Vinsetto/Conquer/etc...), 4iiii Fliiiight Smart Trainer In-Depth Review, click here to Subscribe without commenting. Ultimately I think it’s better for me to mix chainring modes, unless I’m 100% sure that I won’t do any hilly races, in which case staying most of the time on big chainring would make sense. So here is the most up to date list of products I like and fit the bill for me and my training needs best! Alternatively, for everything else on the planet, simply buy your goods from Amazon via the link below and I get a tiny bit back as an Amazon Associate. Sur son site, Elite annonce une installation en 5min. 300W feels and measures as 300W at 0% as well as 100%, and will go up a climb at exactly the same speed. It really just comes down to getting used to how ERG works and learning to let it do what it is supposed to do. It’s only when you put it on a correctly spacered trainer that it all falls apart. Although, realistically, you don’t care about that. First I thought it was the quick release. The Suito is my second smart trainer and it behaves just the way yours does when compared to my 4iiii PM. When I then go back to putting force in the pedals it works its way back up. Some were perfectly fine, while others had entirely unusable trainers. Problem has apparently been reported to Elite, they should be working on it, but there is no timeline. I get the impression that most of the issues seem to be in US shipped models, or is that over-generalising? 849 €99: Elite trainer novo force pack incl tapis & travel block. The good, the bad, and the ugly. After multiple frustrating attempts, I reached out to Elite and below is their response. Hey guys – i’ve recently bought a Suito from one of the cycle shops here in Denmark. Are all these products have shit quality control/design like that including KICKR? I hope you could help me out! Sure, they're not as powerful as a Wahoo Headwind, but I could literally buy 20 of them for the same price. It’s in the box for cassettes, and sometimes people/mechanics will assume it needs to go on the cassette. Suito has a second or two delay in watt changes using TR and Zwift training rides. I actually bought the trainer from Cykelexperten. A shop is offering me the BF price for the Suito and I found another shop that may be selling the Core for under what Wahoos been allowing. Which means it’s unfortunately kinda useless here. Nope. Happy rider from g.j.speelman September 8, 2020 I am happy with the Elite trainer, my condition is better than ever byfore. thanks for your feedbacks. If I just turn it off for a couple seconds and turn it on, the speed then seems to start reporting correctly for that wattage. Good value. There’s really no excuse for this. Now it seems to be getting worse though – to a degree where it’s probably freaking out the neighbors…, I also checked the power against my 4iiii PM (after calibrating both) and the Suito reads noticeably lower (see image). My first direct-drive trainer. The screw of the freewheel hub was a bit loose, thats all. Mine came with hardware version 2 (it seemed like 1 and 2 had the problem) so I’ve asked if there’s anything they can do to verify the new one they send me is a later production model. Though honestly, I think it’ll probably still decapacitate itself…just at a lower point instead. Sabin alex – thanks for the info. I experience some delay in response. Like the Elite Zumo, it doesn’t quite nail the set point s as good as some higher-end trainers. The knocking isn’t present finally. But it affects my training sessions cause the dropouts affect the power average and my training app consider that I am training lower then expected especially while using ERG mode. B) Power/trainer accuracy. Thanks Ray, But all said, it should look about the same. It’s already making a noise like someone is tapping it with a hammer on each pedal stroke! Guess I’m out 600 bucks. I set it up anyway. After 7k+ km still no issues! I also just put together my complete ‘Gear I Use’ equipment list, from swim to bike to run and everything in between (plus a few extra things). Once I received the Suito I used it for a couple of days and noticed the knocking sound that I am assume is coming from the bearings. That includes spending a number of weeks on the water in cargo ships crossing the Atlantic, plus time on both sides funneling through logistics and distribution networks. Last but not least there’s a few configuration options within the Elite My E-Training app. I bought a Suito last week and everything seems to work well apart from my speed, I seem to be cycling always faster than 100 km/h(sometimes 300 km/h), power wattage and cadence seems to be normal. I think the stated 15 Watts from Elite is way too much. Highly recommended. It gets a little finicky when in erg mode. On paper it seems the former is the better trainer, but would you say the Suito is a better bet given it is a later model? Also, her bike is 10spd (annoying), and mine 11. Not only is it more hassle, it’s also a complete waste of money. Not sure if this is related to belt (so some lubing maybe). Using Zwift, the trainer will automatically change sensitivity/difficulty with hills/training programmes and isn't super loud when going at high speeds/high power input. It also feels like the build quality is better on the Wahoo. First trainer from jrh26 September 12, 2020 It gets a little finicky when in erg mode. Regarding power inconsistency: you can enable Power Meter Link in the Elite software. I returned my first Suito because of flywheel wobble. Regards, Jerome. With Wahoo trainers it’s as simple as an option within their app. my weekly podcast - with GPLAMA, which is packed with both gadget and non-gadget goodness! So sad… I suggest you do a couple of trial runs in the included Elite training app. However when sprinting, the whole trainer will inch forward. For the ANT+ dongle option, I’m concerned that some SW (e.g. Suffice it to say, this thing has kept me sane all these months. If you don't have a permanent setup for bike training this is an awesome, quality option. and a lot of noise and vibrations especially on the smaller end of the cassette. Good value. Purchased Elite Suito in mid December for plug and play features. B) It saves waste shipping trainers twice (once from consumer to retailer, and then again from retailer to distributor). Stay way from the Elite Studio unit. As we approach sale season in Europe early January, I just want to avoid any hassle factor. Jan, Hi there. Even Wahoo and 4iiii also ran into struggles this season. Read lots of reviews and narrowed it down to the Suito. Marque: Elite. And the cause of the accuracy was oddly an incorrect bit of code within the Elite E-Training app (specifically inside the Advanced Configuration page), that would solidly hose up the trainer. See link to elitesrl.zendesk.com. And it has been great for that - it took up very little room in the boot/trunk when we went interstate. Knock on wood. On my second suito after the first one stopped working, but power output has been a nightmare. In fact, Elite’s really been one of the leaders in supporting the various standards – including FTMS. Basically 50% trainer difficulty turns an 12-25t cassette into a 6-50t cassette + differences in biomechanics. Unless I totally misunderstand things, that kind of makes Powerlink redundant, right? Did my first ride on the replacement trainer yesterday. Many trainers actually have very slight wobble with flywheels or the machining of the trainer roller. I have this trainer and a fixed gear bike, and the QR that comes in the set doesn’t hold the bike strong enough.
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